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Can you pass on MC questions alone?

  • 1.  Can you pass on MC questions alone?

    Posted 05-22-2012 07:13 AM

    If, and that's a big IF, you have a really high score in multiple choice part, is that sufficient to pass the exam? I've read somewhere that the relative weights for MCs and essays are 75%:25%, respectively.
     

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    Jod Estoya CPA
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  • 2.  RE:Can you pass on MC questions alone?

    Posted 05-22-2012 06:31 PM
    you would have to score almost a perfect 100% on the MCQ, but I guess technically it would be possible. 

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    Sandra Possin
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  • 3.  RE:Can you pass on MC questions alone?

    Posted 05-23-2012 04:44 AM
    The really problem that you don't know the MCQ weights in the exam and what is the score you should have to pass to the essay , for me the first time i get mor than 50 % in the MCQ but they didn't open to me the essay , in the second time they open to me the essay and i did my best in the essay but they give me 300 score and i was really surprised .

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    Said Nassar
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  • 4.  RE:Can you pass on MC questions alone?

    Posted 05-23-2012 04:54 AM
    Said- you are incorrect.  You must score 50% on the MCQs in order to pass on to the essays- this is not 50% of the questions, but rather the result based on the curve- ie you must score 50% of the available POINTS, not questions. 

    The MCQs are worth 75% of the test.  This is a given and NEVER varies.  The essays are worth 25%. 

    If you did not make it to the essay you simply performed poorly.  Nor is making it to the essay a guarantee of passing.  A score of 300 is very low, meaning you likely did not perform well on the MCQs, but well enough to move on to the essays.  This means you would have had to get an almost perfect score on the essays to pass.


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    Sandra Possin
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  • 5.  RE:Can you pass on MC questions alone?

    Posted 05-23-2012 01:39 PM
    Sandra - You are the one who is incorrect.  It is 50% of the questions, not the curve.  This statement is directly from the CMA resource guide (Page 1) on the IMA's website:

    (Note: if you answer fewer than 50% of the multiple choice questions correctly, you will

    not be allowed to take the essay section.)


    Where does it say anything about the curve being involved?


    Said - Best of luck to you.  It sounds like you are improving on each test so I hope you continue.  And I do not think 300 is "very low".  I would estimate you need between 10-15 more correct questions on the MCQ to pass.  Remember, all questions are of equal point value so don't waste time answering a question that will take you 5 minutes.  Do answer all questions and leave none blank.

    If you're unsure what I mean on my second to last sentence see the CMA Resource Guide Page 10, last question.


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    Daniel Moro
    Accountant
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    United States
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  • 6.  RE:Can you pass on MC questions alone?

    Posted 05-24-2012 07:10 AM
    Daniel:- Sandra is right, although there is no curve involved but u have to get 50 percent of the total questions correct in order to move to the essay part. Means u have to get at least 50 correct answers in order to attempt the essay question. And if ur marks in MCQ were low, means close to 50 to 60 than u will have to to do exceptionally well in the essay question to pass..



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    Muhammad Zaki Godil
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  • 7.  RE:Can you pass on MC questions alone?

    Posted 05-24-2012 04:29 PM
    Muhammad,

    Sandra said the 50% is not based on the questions, but the curve (ie you must score at least 50% of the available points, not questions). 

    I said the 50% is based on the # of questions and the curve is not involved.  Exactly the point you are making. 

    I'm at a loss to understand the contridiction in your opening sentence.

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    Daniel Moro
    Accountant
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    United States
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  • 8.  RE:Can you pass on MC questions alone?

    Posted 05-24-2012 09:41 PM
    Hi group,
    First of all, the essay portion is way more interesting and intellectually stimulating than the regular MCQs. Although they are long to read and answer, they should place more weight on essay questions. They actually represent real life situations. 
    But in reply to the question posed, it only reads that  you need to get 50% or more in order to start the essay questions. The passing percentage is 72% overall for the exam, if you divide the minimum required to pass by the total exam score. 
    Given the information below, that MCQs are worth 75%, go figure out if you can pass the exam just by answering MCQs. The probability of you passing the exam with such a huge time crunch is quite minute. 


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    Ajay Shah
    Accountant
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  • 9.  RE:Can you pass on MC questions alone?

    Posted 06-06-2012 08:21 AM

    Thanks all. I didn't know the overall passing percentage which, as per Ajay, is 72%. If MCQs are given 75% weight, then you have to score at least 96% in multiple choice part in order to pass the exam. 

    I'd better go get and practice more essay questions.  

      








  • 10.  RE: Can you pass on MC questions alone?

    Posted 12-08-2022 09:51 AM
    I think almost all of you haven't understood the scoring system. 

    There is no doubt in my mind that the overall minimum passing score is less than 63%. It is calculated as follows:

    0.75 * 0.5 + 1.00 * 0.25 = 0.625

    Why CMA is allowing you to move to the essay part with 50% correct answer. Think hard about it.
     



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    Syed Babar Ali
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  • 11.  RE: Can you pass on MC questions alone?

    Posted 12-08-2022 09:57 AM
    You need to get 84 percent in mcq if you want to pass. Even if you have zero in essay you could still pass with this 84

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    Syed Babar Ali
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  • 12.  RE:Can you pass on MC questions alone?

    Posted 05-24-2012 06:56 AM

    The thing is make sure u  get more than 50% in MCQ at any cost and essay questions are usually quite easy.
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    Muhammad Zaki Godil
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  • 13.  RE:Can you pass on MC questions alone?

    Posted 05-23-2012 06:27 AM


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    Muhammad Zaki Godil
    Student
    Jeddah
    Saudi Arabia
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    regarding the wightage i am not sure but u have to do exceptionally well in MCQ's is order to pass despite of failing the esssay question.. But essay questions arn't tht hard..
    And since u r CPA u shud have no problem with CMA.. :)





  • 14.  RE:Can you pass on MC questions alone?

    Posted 06-06-2012 07:03 PM

    I have been thru IMA's literature -could you refer me where I can locate concrete evidence from the IMA that states 75% and 25% split for the exam.  Below is some information from the resource guide.

     

    "Since the actual items on the CMA exams are different from test form to test form, the different forms of the exam will vary in difficulty, in that some forms may contain somewhat more difficult questions than others. The same standard for passing the test is applied to all candidates, regardless of which form of the test they take. Thus, in order to maintain consistency in standards, the ICMA uses techniques of statistical equating to determine the equivalency of exams. The purpose of equating is to ensure that the passing scores on all forms of the exams are equivalent in terms of levels of difficulty. In this way, the same standard is maintained for all candidates, regardless of when and which test form they take."

     

    "Individual multiple choice items within the CMA parts 1 and 2 are not weighted in the sense  that one question is worth more points than another question. All questions are of equal point value. The individual questions do determine the relative difficulty of the entire set of questions, or "form," of the exam. When you take an exam, a set of questions is randomly selected. Each question included in the set of questions has a "difficulty rating" that, together with all the other questions, determines the relative difficulty of that particular set of questions. This relative difficulty determines the number of questions that must be answered correctly in order to pass. A more difficult exam will require a lower number of correct answers to achieve a passing score than an easier exam."

     

    "All scores on the CMA exams are expressed as scaled scores, ranging from 0 to 500, with the passing score set at 360. The raw scores on the test (i.e., the number of items correct) are transformed to this scale for the purpose of maintaining uniformity and consistency in the way scores are reported, regardless of which test forms a candidate may take."

     



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    Patricia Abels CPA
    Academic
    The University of Findlay
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  • 15.  RE:Can you pass on MC questions alone?

    Posted 06-06-2012 09:09 PM
    Here you go

    http://www.imanet.org/pdfs/public/cma/cma_instructions_for_candidates.pdf

    on page #3:

    "On each part of the exam, there will be 100 multiple-choice questions and two 30-

    minute essay questions. The multiple-choice questions are delivered in random

    order. The essays are worth 25% of the total exam score, and the multiple-choice

    section is worth 75%."



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    Sandra Possin
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  • 16.  RE:Can you pass on MC questions alone?

    Posted 06-06-2012 11:27 PM
    Okay, I'm slightly confused about the reasoning in the IMA instructions for requiring candidates to answer at least 50 questions correctly to proceed to the essay portion. It states that the reason for the cutoff is to avoid letting you attempt the essay portion if you have no chance of passing, but if it looks strictly at number of questions with no regard to weight this does not make any sense. We need 72% to pass and the essay is worth 25%. So if they cut it off at a point where you had to score perfectly on the essays you would need to earn 42% from just the multiple choice, not 42 questions but 42% out of 75% possible. So if the questions were weighted equally (which I know they aren't I'm just using this condition because they are not looking at the curve during the cutoff) we would need to answer 56/100 correctly. I may be overthinking it but I just think it seems odd to provide a reason for the cutoff that doesn't add up.

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    Rebecca Ames
    Accountant
    TLS Contracting, Inc.
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  • 17.  RE:Can you pass on MC questions alone?

    Posted 06-06-2012 11:47 PM
    There has been much debate on this so if you read the previous posts you'll see that no one seems to be really sure on this.  Keep in mind that about 8 questions tend to be pretest so are not graded.  The way it was explained to me is that you must score 50% of the available points, but its unclear whether that is actually the case.

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    Sandra Possin
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  • 18.  RE:Can you pass on MC questions alone?

    Posted 06-07-2012 01:03 AM
    Sandra,

    The link posted above gives a clear indication that it is based on number of questions, but even if that was incorrect my scenario would still work for how you were told exept if we are excluding those ungraded questions then it gets a little closer to right (but it just didn't make that distinction)
    56% of graded questions then must be answered, so for that to work out as 50% of total questions...
    .5*100=.56X
    X=89.3 questions would have to be graded so more like 11 would have to be ungraded for that to work out.

    I guess it doesn't matter right now since I took both parts last month, unfortunatly I registered for both parts in November but since I was working 2 jobs, enrolled full-time at school, and several family medical issues made it impossible to prepare. I only ended up studying 2 days for part 2 and a week for part 1. But, i don't think I did bad, I made it to the essays on both and the essays were fairly easy so I'm hoping I did well enough on the MC to pass.

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    REBECCA AMES
    Accountant
    TLS Contracting, Inc.
    Alma AR
    United States
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  • 19.  RE:Can you pass on MC questions alone?

    Posted 06-07-2012 04:49 PM
    Good luck Rebecca. 

    The worst thing about the CMA is how long it takes to get test results :-( 

    If you nailed the essays you probably have a really good shot at passing.  Since the essays at 25% and you got at least 50% of the MCQs right the 72% you need might just be within reach. 

    I got an easy version of Part 1 and a killer version of Part 2.  For part 2 I was actually surprised when I got to the essay screen.  LOL.  Luckily the essays on both parts were very doable, otherwise I would have been forced to hang myself immediately after the test.  hahahah

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    Sandra Possin
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  • 20.  RE:Can you pass on MC questions alone?

    Posted 06-07-2012 10:38 PM
    Thank you Sandra. I may have rushed it a little more than I should have because I wanted to get it done before graduating (I take my last final for my double major in Accounting and Business Admin on July 3) so I scheduled them in between the Spring and Summer semester. Its too bad I didn't wait since I could have gotten an excellent review on Cost Accounting after I finished classes. One of my many awesome professors asked me to proofread, error check, look for technical glitches and work all of the problems, in an interactive textbook she is writing for the IPad. Either way, worst case scenario I will be prepared very well for a second attempt at that section.

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    REBECCA AMES
    Accountant
    TLS Contracting, Inc.
    Alma AR
    United States
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